The ISIG Problem of the Square-Nosed Beastie

An ISIG is a wide glyph set over two columns of text on stone stelae: Unknown Entity.
Drawn by Carolyn Jones as the ISIG for a resource booklet at the Maya Meeting , 2002, at UT at Austin Texas

At first I believed that above ISIG to be the same as the Square-Nosed Beastie found in the Nuttall Codice, but closer inspection of the ISIG at the beginning of this post and the double panel shown below of the east side of Stela -F proved me wrong.

Nuttall Codex: N-17-MM
The End of the "Star-Eating"  Cycle
Date is 10- Crocodile

Such as the double set below is found on the east side of Stela-F at Quirigua. The ISIG at the top or columns A-B does not have the same iconography as the large version above.

Stela -F  East side with ISIG using the Square-Nosed Beastie.
Drawn by Matthew Looper, author of Lightning Warrior (2003)

The following ISIG actually is the Square-Nosed Beastie from Stelae E. F. and K found at Quirigua. It is only on the east side of Stela-F that it iwass used as the Initial Series Introductory Glyph.

Stela F-East side
ISIG: Square -Nosed Beastie 

I have long believed that it was a statement giving the regal power to K'ak Tiliw Yoaat, but when Simon Martin and Nikolai Grube compiled the Chronicle of the Maya Kings and Queens in 2000, it became clear that the stela was a sign indicated for the event of the Square-Nosed. Beastie, Eater of the Stars as found in the Nuttall Codex in the Mixtec area.

Stela F Ka'k Tiliw Chan Yoaat
Or "Fire-Burning Sky Lightning God"

Stela K: K'ak' jo-[lo]-ya Chan-na yo-Yoat:T? ti
Or "Jade Sky"

There seems to be an identification problem with the above two Stelae. A strong family resemblance but not more than the fifth ruler of this dynasty. If the first of these two Stelae was the 14th, then who or what was he, a person or a "god"?

Stela F contains a story about the Square-Nosed Beastie also known as the Star-Eater of the sky ball court i.e.: the Milky Way.

There are dates in this story but they have been skewed to trillions of years in the past.

Unless there is a major correction to the dates, the story cannot be a true source of "power" for any ruler in Quirigua. Mostly because no human existed in that a very long time ago.  There was no one to carry the memory forward into Maya times.

If the Square-Nosed Beastie is (or was) such a strong power source in Quirigua, that in 624 AD was used to introduce the son of Pacal as "he who would inherit Pacal's rule." one year after the death of Ruler 14 in Copan.

It is strange that the Square-Nosed Beastie is so prominent on the tomb of Pacal as the same Tree of Creation, [the Milky Way]---when Pacal introduced his son as the next ruler for the throne when he would die; it makes one wonder why the Square-Nosed Beastie has been ignored for so long. H.m.m.m.m.  Not at Palenque? Look again.

The Temple of the Cross
and the Sarcophagus of Pacal

Justin Kerr: K-688£

Is this bird the death of the Square-Nosed Beastie? It appears to be the last square-breath of a decapitated flying entity with a smoking tail: a tail that spewed enough smoke and dust  into the the stars of the Milky Way that are still hidden in a narrow space that gives appearance of a pathway for bees to go up into the most beautiful rose (now called a Camilla by NASA).

The beautiful rose is that of the Ring Nebula. once a blazing blue star before the Great Tree of Creation broke into two pieces. The broken piece is called the Tree of the Warrior (Orion is inferred).

That story can be seen in the March 23, 2013 blog here.

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The Square-Nosed Beastie: Eater of The Stars

N15- BL
The Square-Nosed Beastie at Hom:  Fire in Claws

Many years ago, I discovered the Square-Nosed Beastie. It was part of Linda Schele's very first class at the University of Texas at Austin. She named several Beasties during the class; her first was Lady Beastie, the genetrix of the gods in the beginning of time.

The Squared-Nosed Beastie came next. This creature was completely without any identification, except for the fire in his claws. I never listened too hard to the lectures, I was always fascinated by the glyphs themselves.  And if I saw a different picture in the glyph, it was seldom equal to what was accepted.

Eventually, I attended the Maya Workshops, but not unto 1994 when I met Jan Adams, a woman who insisted that there was a lot of Astronomy data in the glphs. I tried to ignore her beliefs  but from that time on, most of my presentations included star "stuff."  Even so, i still insisted that I was not studying the stars. "

Early, I learned from Linda the explaination of the ISIG, commonly known as the Initial Series Introductory Glyph. This particular glyph always---when it appeared---covered two columns in the stone stelae. The concept was to notify the reader that the two columns were consistently read together. Dates were always the first set of glyphs found under each ISG. Sometimes the dates were easy for me to read and other times, when expanded full figure glyphs were used, I could not.

I was a difficult student. I always looked for a reason that many glyph passages were full of, what Linda called "spaghetti." She warned her students to look past the spaghetti" and look for the cleaner "glyph" elements.

Well, to discover meanings for picture glyphs, for me, meant "look for ideas in other languages." It was definitely, a NO-NO, since the epigraphers insisted that one must study only Maya languages. In the codices, mostly the Mixtec, the glyphs were expanded beyond single cartouche images. They we're always full-figured elements. The Squared-Nosed Beastie was one of them.

In the above drawing, the S-N Beastie was starting out from his sky location. Google would say his location was his home address. He obviously is a very hungry sky traveler. He seems to be eating the stars that surround the mythical ball court of Hunahpu, the Maya sky entity. of the Popol Vuh. Another glyph of the Square-Nosed Beastie shows a slightly different view.

N-17-MM
The End of the "Star-Eating"  Cycle
Date is 10- Crocodile

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N-18-ML

Date: 12-Wind   Fire in Claws

Sitting on top of sky changing roof
of Izapa's Stela 22?

The question is:  Does N-18 come before N-17 or is it where it belongs? [And when did the Square-Nose Beastie join into the Turmoil in the sky?]

N-19a-TL
Date: 13-Flower:  No Fire in Claws

This view shows that he has eaten all the stars of the . Ball Court. Since only one other view shows him in the process of eating still more stars,this may be a glyph placed incorrectly. It is possible it belongs to the end of this "Star-Eating" series.

•  However, if is placed where try in the middle of the two N-15 and N18, then 

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N-17-MM
The End of the "Star-Eating"  Cycle
Date is 10- Crocodile

it not only follows the path of the Madrid Codex, but also agrees with the Ninth Prophecy  of the Hopi.Indians. in order to retain that basic knowledge of their origins, it had to either predate as past history, or post-dated as an event yet to  occur.

[To be Continued as The ISIG Problem of the Square-Nosed Beastie]