Stars of Tamoanchan

This Blog is about the descriptions associated with the Ancient Astronomy. I found it to be the most engaging research job I have ever done. I have also added, over the years, items about our present geology and climate problem alterations.

Sunday, February 19, 2017

The Radish Journey Northward



Two Radishes at Nasca Peru

The Northern 
Journey of the Radish

When I was preparing my presentation about the Nasca Lines for the University of Calgary, I realized there were two long radish-like images with three lobes on the top of the greenery, on the Nascaplain. These were separated by a huge empty space.  I had seen copies of the Mixtec and Maya
codices but I could not find such an image in those codices.

Many years later, as I laid out a zodiac through the astronomy website NightSkies, I found two serpents both sides of a constellation called Ophiuchus but not the radish-like configurations I had seen on the Nasca drawings.

However, I had to go to the dentist. The Nasca paper had to wait a bit. In telling the dentist about my newest sky project, he made the comment that he and his wife had gone to New Zealand. On the way back, lying home  his wife was looking out the window and commented Orion was upside-down. When asked why, she said: “Well, because the constellations we see are actually upside down south of the Equator.

In India, Praji Pata was a horned, seated constellation before the Earth shifted 23.5 degrees, Praja Patic acquired feet. I read a description of Ophiuchus in Richard Allen’s Star Names and found one of the names identified for Ophi was Orion. Another  name for it was the "blind god." So I went searching for a blind god in the Maya codices The Dresden Codex has one with three cloths, knotted over its eyes.[D-50b]

Over its had a pair of gods, one with the "sun" headdress of the God in the Land of the Dead [D'-47b]; the other, wearing a jawless skull as a headdress on his spotted, diseased body (of the sun we see every day).[D-50a] In Kaye Almere Read's poem, the Aztec version of the Birth of the Fifth Sun, this diseased sun god would peel off and throw those scabs away.  [In Astronomy, the process is known as "sun flares" often seen being blown off the face of our sun.]

Between these two glyph pictures is a text beginning with the Hand thought to have been the Moon, while from the west, came the blazing comet, carrying two gods, Tecuiçiztecatl, the ashy moon, and Nanahuatzin, the sun, as the eyes of the "venus" glyph. In Maya, these famous Twins are Hunahpú and Xbalenqué. They can be found earlier in the Dresden: as a headless Hunahpú, [In the Maya Popol Vuh. it was in the bat house of Xbalba where and when he lost his head] Here, his arms are roped; Xbalenqué behind him with the comet's rattle [noisemaker] in his hand.[D-02a].

That was easier than searching for radishes. Usually, the blind god wore a blindfold over his eyes. In the Madrid, a jaguar image was used to indicate the night time skies, where such astronomy figures are to be found. But, there is no Ophiuchus associated with the Twins.

Bingo! I found the blind god in the mouth of a huge jaguar with three deer hooves and one hand, but not with a blindfold, only with sightless eyes. On the "blind god" was a three lobed radish-like plant used as an earbob. The colored version also shows two bright fire stars (as numbers, one in front and the other in back of the jaguar..[M-39c]  Whoa! That might well indicate that the Peruvians and the Maya were in an astronomy school together.

Radishes, cabbages and other vegetables, south of the Equator are huge. Not the tiny commercially grown vegetables that we have in the states. So the placement of a radish image is justifiable. Was Nasca the “triangulation from the sky to the earth” practice area for the Peruvian astronomy school?

I wrote up the presentation along those lines, collected the pictures for it and put it on my web site after the presentation was over. I called it “The Radish.” Then I forgot about it. It was a little later when Bodley page 26 popped up. I had acquired books from John Pohl’s  class about the Bodley Codex, and started to browse through it during my lunch. Hm.m.m, John had mentioned a year sign (the A/O) that had acquired the shape of a serpent for decorative purposes only.

I got the page off my CD and blew it up in Paint and started to fill in the missing segments of the images. It is easier for me to “understand” what I am looking at, if I trace out the details . . . even if I do not draw the whole image, I get a better view of what is there that way.

I had finished the top line and was about to close the program when suddenly I “saw” the upside down star viewer the astronomers used. Oh. . . and the footprint path was white. It either meant “death” or “snow” Now where would the Maya find snow?

And why was the viewer upside down? The dentist! The constellation was upside down for the star viewer. Another tidbit of information made itself known. In Oaxaca, there is a carved radish festival every Christmas season. The radish image and Christmas would only be important if the “radish” image was associated with a god or with a star formation.

In Oaxaca, Orion was the Christmas star formation at this time, but, in Peru during the same season, Ophiuchus as the "blind " god with his two serpent figures? Where----the radish-forms were on the plain----was the Peruvian constellation Ophiuchus or Orion? A different constellation appears in the Spring time north of the Equator and was called the Summer Triangle. No wonder nothing in Maya astronomy seems to work out correctly.

 Checking my older notes, I found that Oaxaca to the Yucatan had the transmission of metallurgy from Peru. They were using such techniques for a long time.  The Bodley Codex, yes, informed the Maya of their marriage, but instead it was the story of their legal son, Three Dog. They were to send him to school in another land.

Their son was to be their personal astronomer/astrologer. For this reason, he was sent over the snow to the southern mountain government located at Nasca. The codex is telling us about the  history of student astronomers who traveled from other countries, including Mexico. to learn the fine points of star triangulation. They go to Observation Hill on Sandy River for their triangulation from sky to earth lessons.

It is probable that the Peruvians had to erase Ophiuchus from the plains and instead of the serpents, placed the “radish-like” forms because they had their own radish festival to honor of this constellation. A festival that was probably wiped out intentionally by the Inquisition as well.

As it was, Ophiuchus, the constellation that bisect the two “radish-like” images are seen and accepted as right-side up in Nasca, Peru. . . because it is directly on the equator and has a star on the top often drawn as his pointed hat AND the Peruvian view of this constellation. So that both Orion and Ophiuchus have a very similar shape. Except that Ophiuchus often is shown with a star on its chest. The main image therefore changes to a house with a pointed roof. The star is a benign star often called Good Luck. [Maybe when Seven Macaw lost his turquoise blue teeth?? But again, how did Seven Macaw get into this part of the story????]

During the time I was in Ecuador, I had no idea Naosca even existed. [When I was in Quito, Ecuador I would walk through the zocalo ["market" in Mexico] in awe of the huge vegetables in front of the farmers. I would stand near the buyers and listen to the prices, amazed. Although not expensive using US money,  They were always beyond the money in my pocket at the time.]  These veggies----the super-sized radishes----were not so different in size from those measured out on the plains of Nasca.
The Radish Festival in Oaxaca 2007
The Summer Triangle, [The Corn God, 
missing here] Three Dog and The Goddess 
of the Twisted Headdress

A harvest festival  that was probably wiped out eventually by the Inquisition as well, but later, created in Mexico as a fun thing by the homesick princess named Xonaxi Quecuya [or coya] discovered by Joyce Marcus in one of her Mixtec tax tables. The princess lived in a town called Tacolula, Mitla..[Table 7.6]

Coya is the term in Peru for a daughter of the Sun, or a princess of the Inca ruler. 

That would explain why Oaxaca was interested  metallurgy with gold and silver from Columbia and Ecuador.. Oaxaca had the gold of the Aztecs, but not the process . . . . . until the Princess as an envoy, or as a future wife for the Oaxacan dynastic ruler in Mixtec lands. It made for a very interesting investigation. How did Three Dog's parents pay for his lessons? Why did he take the Goddess of the Twisted Headdress with him on his journey?  Many questions have to be answered before the story can be made into a real history event. H.m.m.m. . 

Thursday, February 2, 2017

The Date of 4 Ahau 8 Kumk’u as April 18, 411 AD

Naturally, 4 Ahau is a Day name, but 8 Kumk’u was never a month name until the Spanish rulers decided to create "month names" that would fit the Aztec/Maya calendar system sufficiently as to be able to correlate with the Spanish version of months/year, within the newly created months/year 1583-1584 for Nueva España as the Aztec/Maya versions of their 18 months of 20 days in a 365.25-day year. (This information can be found in The Book of the Year by Munro S. Edmonson, (1988, 178)

However, there was no great rush to teach the natives anything about the months, except the very simplified Julian Calendar.  The “month names remain linguistically undocumented.”(1988, 211) It never stopped the scholarly population from using the month names within their presentations as soon as they verified the 819 year correlation as a fixed, [although still faulty] detail. Everyone is attempting to justify the discrepancies they find.

One calculation David Stuart (2011) did was explained in The Order of Days. as 4 Ahau, 8 Kumk’u that added up to 244,9648 days, beginning with the calculation 9 x 144,000 = 1,296,000 days. (Stuart, 2011, 169).

Whoa!!!!  In the other side of the world, the same number, without the last zero, was used to make a strange statement:  The Creation of the World. Stela C and Altar Q also wrote about the Creation of the World. My, what a coincidence.

Leonardo da Vinci teased the mathematical world by attempting to square a circle.  (When all failed the math problem, da Vince decided to tell every one where to find the answer; he put a rebus at the end of his signature. (National Geographic, April/May 2015) He drew a square within a square. This told the world that he would eventually find the way to prove it was possible in Geometry. Yet, the geometry part of the problem was not 4 x 4 which would square a cube, or a rectangle;  it  was instead 129600 / 360: the number of days in a year before it became 365.25 as he knew it then; as we know it now.

Apparently, it had been decided that the native population in Nueva España would not protest, because of the superior intelligence of the Europeans. This is a nice way of saying, the natives knew nothing about calendars. [Book reading intelligence always superceded picture writing all over the world.]

David Stuart did a great job finding multiple translations [below], and his work is too good to be truncated with paraphases, so I have included it as he wrote it on page 216-219 of The Order of Days (David Stuart 2011):

a. “This  4 Ahau 8 Kumk’u date is explained in considerable detail in the inscription of a tall monument erected in the ruins of Quiriguá, Guatemala, known to archaeologists  as Stela C.”
b. “The left side begins with an Initial Series date, a Long Count, written as, 4 Ahau 8 Kumk’u. A record of the events of that momentous day comes (see page 218). In the first we find a small X-like element, which we know from Maya syntax represents the core or “root” of  a verb. There is some evidence, not completely secure as yet, that this X-sign reads jel , a word in Maya languages that might sound familiar from earlier discussions in Chapter 3 meaning “to switch” or “to change-over”.

The X-like element, David Stuart mentions above can also indicate “sky bands.” but his other translation jel,  meaning “to switch” or “to change-over” was perfect. His next question “What changed?” can be answered easily with spelling: ”image,” “form,” or “mask.”

What changed? , that is what we see in the next glyph, the subject of the verb. Here we have a sequence of two syllables k’o  and ba. In a parallel case the same glyph blocks to be spelled k’o-jo-ba, suggesting that the Quiriguá glyph is a shorted form of the word k’oj ba, perhaps pronounced and spelled sometimes as k’o-ba.  The best reading of this word, I believe, is based on the root k’oj, meaning “image, mask.” In Yucatec Mayan, the equivalent of k’ohbäil, “image, form, portrait, “ and in Ch’ol Mayan the equivalent is k’ohbäjil, with a somewhat related meaning of “head, face.” Both of these are in turn related to the widespread Mayan word k’oj, meaning “mask.” The idea of these obvious related concepts centers on the key notion that one’s head or face is what conveys one’s image and identity.  

But only if we accept the 129600 as the "face of the earth had been changed". The whole idea is that the three hearthstones were “set” at this time, explained on Stela C at Copan. And Altar Q mentions the name of one of the rulers as “Great Sun, Turtle, Macaw, Lake.”  The Great [Star comet] is locaeted in the Turtle [constellation], and also called [Seven] Macaw, at the [Lake.] Now, it could have been the name of a real person who was born during that event, or it is just the event itself personified.

The only question that is unasked and unanswered is why were there only three hearthstones? David did mention the Aztec Sun Stone at the INAH museum which he claimed is only the emblematic hieroglyph of the Fifth Sun. He did not consider dates since there seemed to be a different story with the glyphs on the stone.

In the Google blog: Stars of Tamoanchan, the Secret of the Aztec Sun Stone is explained The Blog was written as the Four Ages of the Sun for a good reason.  There are only three Ages of the Sun on the Aztec Sun Stone. Fourth Age is actually the first age; and One became the last Age. These two ages are noted by INAH as having 676 years, and the other the middle, of Tlaloc and his wife, Chalchiuhtlicue have two numbers that  add up to 676 ([Tl]364 + [Ch] 312= 676 years) (the confirmation of number of years for each "square Age" can be found in The History of the Mexicans as told by their Paintings. by Henry Phillips, Jr (1883, 8). Tlaloc produced the rains of “Resin” or “Turpentine” while his wife, who extinguished the fires with her “flood of water.”

Therefore, we are now living in the Age of the Fourth Sun, not the Fifth.  It is all Astronomy, Climatology, and Geology. The History as told in the Popol Vuh and other manuscripts should be re-evaluated.

We can return to David Stuart’s theory of dating, but that would take another long session of writing,  I think the Creation of the World, was what he was looking for, it is there for the taking.


The matching numbers can be found in a book called Xi You Ji, in the first two columns of its Introduction. Da Vinci’s square within a square is a Chinese character translated as “He who returns.” the Huihui or those from the Middle East.

Once the dates are corrected away from the 819 year correlation, one might find the exact European sequence as the Comet came three times and dropped a major stone in each of the three locations.

Wednesday, January 25, 2017

How the Moon Split, within 20 Days

Note: "Muhammad splits the moon,"
was an illustration in a Falnameh,
a Persian book of prophesies.

Maya Glyph for 20 day month
In the Ríos Codex, there are four pictures of the different ages of the Sun. All show stones falling from the sky. The last version shows a flower mountain with fruit on it. Without a doubt, we can also call this Persian mountain "Flower/Fruit." 

Here  is a Persian manuscript illumination which refers to a split moon, a white, [lighter colored] mountain (in the background) and a mountain covered with flowers and fruit. A strange root radish-type “fruit” at the end of a beard pointing upward. A weird gash in the earth; a man who is half hidden in it. It is reminiscent of a tearing of the earth by a fallen meteorite. It is a prophetic statement as all true instances of this event has been recorded. It had to be a prophecy; if not, it would have been destroyed. Governments are like that.

It appears that the Persians are making their own visual statement about the Flower/Fruit Mountain. A meteorite (stone egg) had fallen into the sea; not from the moon. It separated the Flower mountain from the White Mountain. 

A geological "sheer thrust," in the land passed through the Puerto Rican Trench in the Atlantic Ocean through Mexico's Popocatepetl and Ixtacuihuatl as far as the San Andreas Fault in Baja California. [Raicz, Erwin (1968) Landforms of Mexico]. 

 An Aztec/Mixtec Moon Glyph with a cord around the head meaning 20, thought to be a “tied” [completed] month of 20 days. The event was seen! But, by whom? Was it the Aztecs who saw it and recorded it for their university astronomy lessons or were they in Nasca, Peru, learning to triangulate the stars? 

Where was the Sun Wu Kong (the Monkey King) of China at the time? His name means "dog-of-the-old-moon." The Aztec Xolotl was the dog version of Quetzalcoatl who fell from the heavens and saved the sun from death. 

 Olivia Vlahos in her book, Far-Eastern Beginnings claimed that documents of the T'ang Dynasty (618-907) described the blue-eyed, blond Wu-sun, the Ting-ling and the Yueh-chih tribes [yueh = moon] which probably included people with Western faces. The Ting-Ling and the Wu-sun inhabited lands around Lake Baikal and the Altai Mountains. She stated that the Yueh-Chih lived farther to the west. (p. 86) She also stated that the T¹ang described the Kirghiz as tall, red of face and of hair, green of eye.(p. 128) 

The presence of the tall Jaina hats and Caucasian features of the tombs of Xinjiang, in the burial sites on the edge of western Gobi desert and in the island of Jaina, off the coast of Mexico, may connect the two lands historically. Near the city of Belize located in the Yucatan peninsula, there is a point of land called the Moho Cay. Then a connection might be made with the recorded event in the Moho Tarot-type manuscript; a short version of the Monkey King's journey westward. 

Is there another connection with the Jaina tall hats? The Monkey King did expel turds in the sky and the Aztecs  the excrement of the gods as gold and silver. H.m.m.m.m. 

As an aside, the Persians invented Chess; the Indid believe was gca emperor was an expert at that game, according to Pizzaro’s account. The travelers through India played a board game called Parchessi. Similar to a game played by the Aztecs with time on their hands. 

 As it is, there is a lot of evidence for transoceanic travel, both east and west, but we seem to be searching for things that cannot exist, such as, clothing, food, fine slipware, pottery, and statues, however small. 

Except for the last two items, all will be eaten, deteriorate, be broken in a short span of time. The sea breezes create hunger and food in small boats which are not capable of sustaining more than a few people over a long journey. The salt spray will destroy in a very short time, even clothing packed carefully away in closed boxes. 

Men who traveled by these small boats would marry a native whereever area he stepped ashore. She would have none of the past. She would only chose to remember the present. The most viable element that was carried north, south, east and west from and throughout the Americas was knowledge and adept hands which could illustrate a concept. 

Original art work would have been drawn on the sea shore in the sands, on the mountains in the soil or on some form of cloth, paper or bark. All these original items would be lost over the centuries, in a very short span of time. Copyists in the area would insert their own version of the pictures. They would almost be the same, but not quite: a scroll here, a tassel there, a slanted eye or a strange hat. 

The script would change over the years from that of the original artist, to that of the copyists. [See the tomb of Palenque and the Lady of China] When similar art forms are discovered, it is not easy to think of diffusion. After all, we would never take a small boat across the oceans, but, even today, there are people who do. Single navigators with a dream, or even families with a sturdy, albiet small boat. Modern boats are better equipped than the open boats used centuries ago. 

A journey can be made, but because of language differences, are quickly forgotten. Those who traveled in ancient times, knew of these differences and used both physical entertainment (i.e.: acrobatics, dance, mime, puppetry) and the paint brush as their vehicles for understanding. For their personal safety, they used "magic" which was no more than a primitive form of the very technology we use today.

Did the moon split off from the earth. Most assuredly it did----except that it was the volcanoes in front of Lake Texcoco, rose to mountain heights when the "sheer thrust" occurred across the land and split the volcanoes from the Balsas Valley below. The lake behind the volcanic mountains rose almost to the heights of the mountains and reflected the closeness of the moon so brightly, stars, reflected in the water previously, could no longer be seen.

Is the Persian manuscript, attempting to tell us that the split across the land happened within a month of 20 days; or was it just telling us that the Moon in the sky was showing us the reflection of the earth beneath it?  It is your, the reader's choice, to make. There is no "proof" other than what is presented here. And, it is obviously, very eclectic in nature.

If one reads the Codices, and reas Ferdowsi, one might find a story that is repeated in one of the Codex.Baranda. found in the Occidente de Oaxaca. Only a Persian could have told the story so completely.

Friday, January 6, 2017

The Lady of China vs Palenque's Pacal

        The Lady of China  and the Palenque Tomb of Pacal has been believed to have been Independent Invention. However, Independent invention does not explain why the grave banner of the Lady of Changsha has ALL the components of the two distinct version of the dragon and the Maya Jaguar/ Chinese Snow Leopards. It is more feasible to say that the presence of the Lady combined the two monuments of the tomb of Pacal.
     The strange part about this is that the Lady is purported to be a BC date and the other two are post AD dates.If the 242 BC is actually 884 AD. In this way, the Lady had time to cultivate a family, have blacked lungs from tobacco, and beautiful auburn hair from her parents. It also gave rise to the cross bow with a gun-trigger to release the bolt (arrow) from the weapon; circa IXth century AD when they were first known in warfare in Middle Eastern Europe, probably during the pre-Crusade era.

      [The elements that can be compared are noted below the banner and the carvings themselvea.]
The Lady fm Changsha, China   Pacal's Temple   over    Tomb of Pacal
Lady from Changsha, China 247 BC Dragon Bar ws/ Smoke     

Dragon Bar Comparables
Thje Dragon Bar for the Lady is First
the one for the Section 8 is below
[Center Jaws of the Dragon is below Pacal's rump.]

Other Comparisons

Tomb Comparisons.j

Seal Flower of Tomb  Same Element on Lady's Banner

Muan Bird Pacal        Bird over Lady from Changsha, China

Pacal on the. . .           Lady on the. . .

. . .dragon/in Temple    . ..Smoke Rod under the lady

Panther-clad men         Two snow Leopards

     Anthropologists and archaeologists today believe if they find 100 words in both languages from the intrusive migrants, then the case is solved as "diffusion." But if this does not occur, then the conclusion is 'Independent Invention." If there are migrants with a purpose who decided they were only going to stop for a short time, the language elements left behind are usually "magic" tricks or primitive inventions. If the Mesoamericans were not magicians (the Huastecs were Magicians.] or knew nothing about primitive inventions, then there is no proof of the magic nor of any 100 word vocabulary.

     So what is left, is the reader themselves must decide if it is "diffusion" or is it only "Independent invention?  However, other items can be compared such as the expertise of the Inca Emperor with Chess against Pizarro, the sites along the coastlines of 12th century sudden evacuations on the two continents, among other items of interest.

Sunday, December 18, 2016

Two Gods with Many Names

From: dea urquidi <>

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2016

Sahagun, in the Florentine Codex, has some neat double talk about the gods.
And what he did with El Toro in BK VII - Chapter III is really great. He gave more
info about the constellation (not Taurus), also Quetzalcoatl and that “he was no
Fool." Another set of gods with all ltheir different names are as follows:

Ayamictlan or Xiuhtecutli:


Book III - Libro X, Chapter 29 - #15 = Ometecutli, 2 times Senor.
His  wife is Omecihuatl 2X Senora.  In XII heaven and of earth.
Senors  2 times nombre de la comparte feminina de principio
divino [dualmento concebido.]
Book I - Libro VI - Chapter 25 - #3 = Fecha Calendarica;
also in Book II - Libro X - Chapter 29] - #15.

BK II - Libro VI - Chapter XXV -  #3
Quetzalcoatl.  god of el cielo, creador y hacedor;
God of Infierno
Book II - Libro X - Chapter 29 - #15 = Ometecuhtli (M) y Omecahuatl (F).
[It seems that the Maize God may also be associated
with the Fire God.]

Book IV - Libro VI  - Chapter 17 -  #7 = Ayamictlan
Title given to the gods of Fire.
Prob, “no dominador de la región de los muertos,
sino, ”el que está entre las nieblas del sitio de los
muertos.” [Ayauhmictlan]

Librio I - Chapter XIII  - #1 = Dios del fuego;  padre de todos los dioses,
Other names:  Ixcozauhqui, es a decir “cariamarillo”’;
Cuezaltzin, que quire decir “llama de fuego.”
#2 = Huehuetéotl, que quiere decir  “el diios antiguo: “
y todos le tenían por padre considerando los efectos que
hacía porque quema la llama, enciende y abrasa, y estos son efectos que causan temor. [Continued in #3 food, drink, honey, charcoal, la cal,  banos, etc]
Father of all Gods; enveulto entre nubes de aqua..

[Horoscope: Influence Children in womb].

Thursday, November 10, 2016

The Seldon Codex: Its Place in Maya Pre-classic History

The Seldon and the Vindobonensis Codices: 
The Story of the Disaster in Heaven by the Seldon
 and on Earth in the Vindobonensis.

By D. M. Urquidi

This paper began with two codices: the Selden and the Vindobonensis Codices. The Selden, expanded from four pages to whole 20 pages of the original codex with a breakdown of most of the main characters. The Vindobonensis expanded from a single figureset to a whole page; and a final understanding of what the stone blocks and rope measures were being used for in the latter pages.

In the beginning, it was only the story within the Seldon Codice and how the lirst page began with the two gods falling from the sky to split a mountain, and then the marriage to a goddess sitting alongside of a hole at the top of a cave within a mountain.

The whole seemed to repeat the same myth of creation I had already found in many of the Mixtec codices and multiple vases from Justin Kerr. The dropping of the debris [new earth gods] from the Great Star seemed to be an occurrance in those codics and vase photos.  As I attempted to realign the pages of the Seldon, according to god adventures, it became necessary to look at the dates. Such dates should be in sequence.

However, with several pages of the Selden damaged, dates were either computed, using the strange modern calculations based upon a 52 YEAR cycle, which was not associated with the Maya calendar at first, but became its mainstay when it was used with the continuous 13 DAY-NUMBERS against the 20-Day cycle, and a MOD 260 in a great calculation of computereze. This process ignored the daily spin of Earth, within its 360-day and 365-day cycle. Such calculations have been used to calculate, comparing the cyclical passages of planets, thought to be the planets Venus and Mars, ever since the mesoamerican studies began in earnest.

So to offset the errors in the modern calculations, I dug further into Mexican lore and in 1700’s discovered:

Servando Teresa de Mier Noriega y Guerra (b. 1763 - d, 1827), the Bishop of Mexico City. He discovered a great disparity in mesoamerican dates, altered even in those early years after the Gregorian and Julian calendars had been introduced to Mexico in 1583-4 AD.

In the Selden, with the four pages presented as an evaluation of the entire codex not a viable record until the dates can be corrected, more accurately by new methods  presented at Oxford University at their Mesoamerican conference.

For the first two days of the conference, the presenters showed new camera methods which can obtain layered older vs newer areas of color. I noted that some stars on the star god[dess] cushions and umbilical cord differences may have been added after the original manuscript had been discovered. But here I digress. I have little knowledge of the such photographic possibities.

Until such is done, a short review of a dating process with the orbital cycle using both the orbit and spin of the Earth as its basic measuring device for a 360-day year: the “constant” previous to the Great Star event. The newer post-seventh century changeover of the calendars [1] world-wide to the 365-day year we now use exclusively.

The Codices, both the Vindobonensis and the Selden, have been read and identified by Alfonso Caso, by John Pohl, and by Father Robert Williams. These three authors spent years learning the dynasties in the Tilantongo and Apuala area around Oaxaca. They have identified landmarks and rivers.

Because the Vindobonenses is also a Creation story attached to rebuilding of those communities destroyed by the debris from the Great Star, we will only refer to the one page where the image is found and comment upon the building scenes.
[1] Wolf, Eric, Sons of the Shaking Earth, page 100.

1. The Vindobonensis Codex

The Codex Vindobinensis is a very basic story about the disaster of the Great Star, and the rebuilding of cities, villages and temples AFTER the event. Not so strange if there had been survivors. The Popol Vuh informed us that there was a group of people who went into the caves and, apparently, sealed up the entrances.

When the star debris rained down, burning star dust that felt like the stings of bees and wasps. those who had not believed the people who had fled to the caves, found themselves in the middle-----not only the burning rains-----but also an earthquake. They ran for the caves, but when then arrived, they found the “caves had shut their faces” against them.

In Volume II, Chapter III-IV of the Florentine Codex, Sahagún explained by saying that star was found in the "cabrillas en el signo del toro." He did NOT say: "in the constellation Taurus," even though Taurus, the constellation was well-known during his lifetime. Since Toro and Taurus say the same thing, no one even thought to question why both names were implied: yet, only Taurus was inferred. Nor did he mention the Pleiades by name.

What are the "cabrillas" other than the Pleiades? There is another definition: the word means "white horses", as "olas en el mar." The part that is downplayed in the Popol Vuh is the flood that killed,  at the same time, the "man of mud" and the "wooden manikins." died. To reread the story both in the front as Part II AND in the back as Part Four is to understand that both events happened after the "rains of resin." The burning rain did feel like bee or wasp stings; the PV author gave thatose references to think about. If you had been stung by either, you experienced burning pain from the stingers and could commiserate with the Maya running for the caves.

Sahagún's Chapter III of Book Seven, was named Las Estrellas se Llamas Mastelejos. With a small change from "TE" to "TI." The removal of the "M" became the name: Gemini, a constellation: Astilejos = "the Twins." “M” usually indicates location in several Middle Eastern languages.

Sahagún gave it a different name: Mastelejos, which by a slip of the pen by a scribe could have been writing Masteleros,To shorten the "J" into an "R". can create a new word even with the old Palmer system. A translation as: "Masteleros gavia" o "mayor" would become: the "topmast of a ship." The closest one comes to "mast of a ship" is the constellation Argo in the Southern Hemisphere. Howver, the Northern Cross also is similar to the main mast of a ship.

Another word buried in the text was called Mamahuatzli and was translated as a Perforador [Piercer]. It referred to a stick spun atop another dented stick to create fire. It was defined as "similar to a constellation."   More likely it was the Northern Cross.

Fire sticks need four items to work: One, the base with a depression filled with milk-weed or chips; second, the upright stick that is spun; third: a small bow around the top of the stick for spinning action; and fourth: a stone to be held in the hand on top of that stick, so the it does not tear up the palm of the hand.

One can determine that the Twins in the Popol Vuh were involved with a constellation which had the appearance of a "ship's main mast." The Northern Cross (also as Cygnus or the Summer Triangle) fits that definition. But does it? Gemini is on one side of the Milky Way with Deneb is the north star of that Cross.

2. The Seldon Codex

I propose Selden Codex is a bona fide story about the event of the Great Star, erroneously called the "Venus Planet." Not to be outdone, there was also an area in the codex where plants were born (specific for new desert areas). One strange entity was a star with three tails.(SL-19)

As for dynastic rulers mentioned in the Selden Codex as married when there are no marriages nor children with umbilicals connected to humans. There are white balls, at times with [or without] a small circle inside, [drawn or real].  A ball at the end of a cord, with no parent, indicated stars.

Therefore, what is written was not an investigation; it was a novela in the making.
There are a plethora of various gods, their own births connected to A-O year signs. The god/entities managed to create the world as we know it today.

As with any picture story, one can read two different levels using the same words or concepts. Two Reed, Three Dog and the goddess of the Intertwined Headdress are several of the entities that seem to be part of story lines in other codices.

There are more, but here in the Selden which was the tale of the travails of the Great Star before he had earned the privilege to pass to the planet Earth.
FIg. 01: One Wind and One Death

The two Lords of the Sky: One Wind and One Death is NOT the beginning of the story of Creation in the Selden Codex. One Wind is Motion of all the stars. One Death is the Great Star of Sahagùn. These entities are only coming down from the sky for the first time. As a story line, this codex starting on Lamina One is incomplete.

Any entity must have a beginning; but not always an end. Gods are like that. The Great Star of Sahagún is not a myth to ignore. The Great Star has a birth "marker." He also has a mummy "wrap" to indicate the end of his journey. Since Lamina 17 has his mummy, and his appearance on earth is Lamina 1; we must look elsewhere else for his star birth. It is clear his story was to be completed within 20 pages of the Selden.

He had obligations just as humans. His passage near Earth would occur only after proper ceremonies were completed: a consultation with the goddess of the Twisted Headdress, who became the goddess of the Serpent. [possibly only one time in the original codex]: meeting with Tlaloc, and other gods, including the elders who told the story within those 20 pages.

The end of the codex should be where they wrapped up the star elements and the red-chin lady called 6 Monkey.  Her tale is very short. It began  in the middle of page 6. She appeared without shoulders or head. there is a footpath that leads to a Nuhu cave where a heart is requested. A battle was fought between a star man called Three Dog and and a dog-helmeted soldier with a stone body split in half. The Nuhu stone was its protector.

As Six Monkey, she is found below with red chin. A staff has a star-eye; the reed shield at the bottom but no day number. Behind the Death Temple, she is born of a star. Her mentor, the old man holds a club with a cutting edge glyphed by a sky dome. It was for her to alter the sky, The pages of the star era is separate from the Great Star Story. Yet, her story ends on page three in the first bundle the old men have collected. The purpose of the red-chin female, Six Monkey, was important enough to have given her a separate bundle.

One page One, the star-eyed entity on the floor of the cave was protected also. A female and a male with his bottom covered by the red paint of his war shirt gave the appearance of a woman. Could it be an androgynous entity sitting on top of the mountain attached to the umbilical cord from the cleft mountain. Since the year is Two House, does the presence of two different reeds [one, in the mountain and the other with the A-O year sign. Does that mean that this year bearer is also Two Reed? [Red Umbilical cords are not the normal color in the codices. Does that  mean a covert message?]

The umbilical cord seemed only to show the Ball Court as it was first seen as a new constellation over the top of the mountain. Izapa Stela 22 indicate a turmoil in the sky just as one, in Uxmal, [p. 42] while Stela 67, with the same boat, cloud-water gods, god in the boat indicated that the turmoil had ended.

However, the Maya Popol Vuh, has a neat piece of mythology: the father of the Twins, who was a "skull hung in a tree." If Deneb of the Northern Cross is in the Milky Way [the Cosmic Tree of the World), an investigation of astronomy is necessary. NASA. published a nebula called NGC 7000 reddish, in the shape of a head with an open mouth, found slightly to the northwest of Deneb. (See Fig. 02 above.) Still not sure?

The Mixtec androgynous entity was Tlaltecuhtli, portrayed as a woman in her monuments, also was Coyolxauqui, the Aztec Moon Goddess. Yet in the Mixtec, she is called the Earth Lord, a male entity, the origin of the Mixtec dynasty of Apuala-Tilantongo in Tezacoalco.

The cord is attached to the reed deep into the cleft of the first mountain. A different connected entity was identified by a Ball Court headdress. It was tied to the sky with a twisted [spun] rope. The Ball Court glyph is half blue and half red. This male entity sits on a double star throne.

In Line III above, the red-bottomed male, is a name glyph an empty ball court, [neither red nor black]. The entity with the ball court glyph attached to his head is also Four Eagle and he sits on a blue stone throne not the star throne of the mountain below..

The Lady on the open cave mountain with Four Eagle had a two star throne but when she moved to the upper register, she sat on a dark grey seat. Just the right amount of green color to the original seat would turn both thrones a deep grey. The gray color was meant to change the throne type to an ordinary one. The first attempt was only to paint the two stars gray; the second attempt was to paint the throne seat a darker gray.

The head inside the cave was a sky glyph of a future son Huitzilopochtli. A man 11-Water and a woman 6-Eagle who wears a nuhu stone dress. but the same twisted headdress as in her first job which was to protect the stone nuhu head inside the cave. Was Huitzilopochtli a Nuhu entity? Most assuredly yes, since he was also a blazing sky stone [Meteorite] that fell into Coatlicue's bosom.

If this codex is a post-conquest monastic example of art, then it may also be an excellent example about the way the actual Two Reed date could refer to both gods on the mountain top and enable them to use the day glyphs associated with time elements for, here, the event of the arrival of the Great Star. The year is Reed, Two House. Was a Two attached to the A-O Reed erased or did it infer to the second Reed piercing the mountain top?

Was this a Two Reed event, found in the Zouche-Nuttall Codex, defined as Two Reed by Alfonso Caso? The entity at [N-34] is a woman holding a spindle, but she is not using it to spin cotton.

Underneath the combined colored circles, is a bird with crest of four fingers. It is also found in the Selden on page 11 with a very red face and a bifurcated shell or wing spread on his back. The Spinning Lady wears a blue apron with one star form in its center. On her head is a red and white toothed serpent. She wore two star entities as a crown headdress. Her name glyph below the Two Reed time element is a blue circle within a larger red one encircled by many small "debris-balls."

Her sister goddess in the Selden, on page 11, using the numeration of John Pohl, has a spindle also. but her name, is the Goddess of the Twisted Headdress. with a spindle with name/number glyphs star-eyed Wind. and Nine Motion. As One Motion, he can be found on page One falling from the star fields of heaven as One Motion who as a two pronged headband, mostly without the star knot at the back. He appeared almost 19 times as his mummy with Great Star Sun-like disease marks of the GS at his back are on his face that is on page 18.

Another entity that is fairly constant is the servant who carried the goddess of the twisted headdress on his back. who appeared 12 times. Then his mummy bundle is found on page 20. Tlaloc appeared 9 times after his birth on p. 14. He had no mummy bundle.

                                             Fig. 05 Nuttall N-34
The spindle in the hand of N-34, is the same image as the spindle with a twisted cord in different venues in the Selden [L.1-L.11]. The male appeared to have the same Two Reed date. The picture glyph as the Two Reed entity on N-34. tells of a blue star that began to turn red until it burst out into star fragments.

Two NASA film clips of the universe show a star known as The Toddler Star in the nebula V-1647 Orionis. It is a bright orange spinning globe with both north and south poles as small blue (hot) circles, spewing gases from both ends. Its colors are similar to the iconorgraphy of the Spinning Lady.

It is not a [Growing] Toddler, instead it is a bi-polar jet preparing to explode. (See
Fig. 06: {Popcorn] star from NASA and
SL-9: Maize God is in Seldon
Page 9 at year 6-Rabbit and t Deer
Third row,[ female] to the left

Another NASA star was shown recently. It had the appearance of a ball of popcorn. As if could have been the original red/blue star, expanding to many more gas jets breaking out  before the Twins were close enough to receive the debris in the third row  to the bottom row of SL-10. This popping star ball was shown as a monkey with a double row of dots as his helmet [bottom row). This walked [as footprints]  the Cosmic Tree on an ash covered mountain  to the bottom row of the page.

On several other pages, The stones from the sky fell, as the earth first jolted, then later, the stone men produced a tsunami. A stone landed inside the volcano.  Both China and the Hawaiian legends tell us that "a great black bird attempted to fill the Pacific Ocean with pebbles."[Melville, Leinani 1969]

Yet, they were as large as those that fell into the Atlantic Ocean and created the "sheer thrust" found in the Mexican Geology from the Puerto Rican Trench, in the Atlantic, through the two sacred mountains to Baja California.

Huitzilopochtli was the star born to fight his sister, Coyolxauhcui [or as the name: Tlaltecuhtli,] and his other star siblings.

Fig. 07: The Moon Disk

The second name of the mother, Tlaltecuhtli, both having been described as being pulled apart in an identical manner on the Moon disk. The disk was discovered in Mexico City in 1968.[3] A Tlaltecuhtli statue was discovered more recently.[5]

The “Scribe” entity was to record the whole event; as The Birth of the Fifth Sun,[4] the Popol Vuh, [6, 7, 8] and the Book of the Chilam Balam of the Chumayel, which confirmed the ”rocking [motion] ẗo and fro” of the earth in Hopi prophecies.[9]

As a ball court surrounded by stars, in the Zouche-Nuttall had a new name suggested by Linda Schele: the "Square-Nose Beastie," who leans out from a date cog filled with burning ash]. It is this SNB who ate the stars of the court on three different times.
The four glyph pages of the Selden Codex and the single figure from the Vindobinenses are actually two different Codices yet, they appear to be illustrating the same creation story.

The question that remains is:

Is it Possible to Change the Maya Calendar and Return it to Its Proper Place as an Earth Calendar?

It was my understanding during the time of the “Remote Past” that began more or less in 1200 BC, long before the pre-Classic period and even the Classic Era of 200 AD. The Post-Classic of 900 AD was interesting. But to receive the information there were “gentiles” in the area of the Remote Past as stated in the conference, only confirmed what I had discovered through a comedy program on a television set in 1977.

I had been housed with the elder Doňa Martinez. She lived in, a small city called Atlixco, south of the volcano, Popocatepetl She had allowed my daughter and I to stay in her home while on a summer Geography program promoted by the University of Texas at Austin.

During those days, black and white television was the norm, long after comedy programs on the radio stations had shut down for lack of patronage. While watching TV one evening with Mrs. Martinez and her daughter-in-law, an old comedy skit about Alexander Graham Bell was the evening fare. It was such an old-style joke, I was curious why the Doňa laughed with such enthusiasm.

In the skit, Mrs. Bell, was sitting by a brand-new, not-yet-functional phone when it rang unexpectedly, Mrs. Bell became flustered, She expressed her surprise that anyone would even know to call on the instrument. The gentleman on the other end explained his position and gave his name as Anthony Badu.

It was then the laughter of Doňa Martinez surprised me. I asked why it was so hilarious; it seemed to be a Charlie Chapman-type joke since modern telephones had been in use for many years. She then explained with another joke regarding Anthony Badu.

The new one was:
When God said “Let there be Light,”
Anthony Badu flipped the switch.

This was no funnier than the first, but it carried a more serious message of subterfuge. It was home-grown humor to remind the natives within their own homes, the Conquistadores who brought a new religion, were not the first visitors to their lands. Their mesoamerican past as I had discovered it to be in 1977, was still alive.

It is at this junction, that I propose that there is a clue in a single word, That word "gentiles" was in Mesoamerica, centuries before Christopher Columbus.

Even later, after Junipero Serra found there were few Gentiles for his proposed missionary skills; he went to California where he found many communities along the coast. With the soldiers provided by the Spanish governors. he proceeded to clean out the Gentile populations around each of the mission churches he "founded."

Such a word is located in a XVIII century manuscript book about Junipero Serra, founder of all the missions in California. He devoted his life to his work and became known as a California Saint.

There was a lot of travel over both oceans and plenty of proof. The migration headed westward and did not stop until it reached Spain. From there, Columbus warned pilgrims travel to the Americas, believed it was a "safe haven,"  had become dangerous.

How? He told the world that he had discovered the land on October 12, 1492. It was the church 500 miles west of the shrine of Santiago de Compostela where those persecuted shipped across the Atlantic to freedom. The patron saint of that church was La Virgin de la Barca. It was Santiago's boat that turned to stone at the shore. Her feast day was October 12. Columbus was never a convert of Rome. He left more clues before he died.

3. The Calendar Serpents

The Serpent Pages of the Madrid Codex M-12 to M-18, some entities were cut off to the left. The other half is located on the right side of the previous page: the way it was to be read.

Since this calendar begins with One IMIX, it can be dated 1583-4 when Rome decided that
the codices should never be comparable with any Eurasian history, traditional lore, or myth, especially with the Chinese 60-year calendar system.

Then one day, rehashing the Maya calendar, i found a Chinese reference in the Maya, the four corners of the world, with a central fifth, together with the 360 days in the year, Just like the Chinese Calendar of 60 year cycle.

In order to straighten out the story line, the Selden, one has to get the old and the new versions of the Maya Calendars in its correct sequence.

This will prove to be a daunting task. There have been so many changes to the calendar, that by the 1800's, there were so many different changes to the calendar that made no sense whatsoever. The first half of the Madrid Codex mentioned has been datable as Post-1584 for many years, much were younger than the last half.

The reason is IMIX became the first day of the year, This first day-glyph was placed within the month 0 POP by the Church scholars for that year and removed from the end of the Madrid Serpent Calendar.

"IMIX" was taken from July 8th and said to be the very first day of that year. The first month of that year 0 POP---taken from February 26th---became the first time a technical "month" name was used in the Maya calendars.

How the two, six months apart were combined into the first day of the first month is the main reason why the calendar was so confusing to the Obispo [Bishop] of Mexico, Noriega de Servando. His Despedida to his parishioners mentioned how flawed the calendars had become according to Gama who had studied in Rome.

"I see via the gazettes that they are printing the antiquities of Beitia [Veytia]. . . . ‘....although it is a shame Gama says, that the explanation of the Mexican Calendar was erased and it is full of crude mistakes.’ Gama, according to a letter of his that I saw in Rome, had applied to write the history of ancient Mexicans."

The 1955 book where these dates came from is called. "Por la Seňal de Hunab Ku." It is basically a Mayan history book, not connected to the New Age groups, even though it appears to be. The New Age is now prevalent in the country. Contained in the book are historical details, and such missionaries who were important, after the Conquest years.

However, the author appears to use a shred of the cyphering code from medieval world across the sea;. i. e.: The acknowledged dates for First Month and First Day never were in the pages where they were expected to be in the book, so, it was very difficult to search them out even when the dates were hand-written in the margins. The only way to hide solid information is make it difficult to find.

FIrst: One must return to the Selden Codex. It may or may not be a pre-conquest manuscript. Regardless, it has been altered somewhere within the 20 pages. This leads to more erroneous dated information.

As an illustration, in the Selden codex, the "Goddess of the Serpent" [or the "Intertwined Headdress"] appears to have two birth cords; SL-17 and SL-19; each attached to a different year. It is possible that only one of them is correct.

Nevertheless, there seems to be other "errors" to be found in the day name’s and an A-O year or so, besides the two attributed to the goddess. She also acquired the name of Serpent Goddess.

With almost 88 instances in 20 pages, this goddess was respected in the heavens. She has also been remembered in 2007 during the winter Radish Festival at Oaxaca. She was coupled with the Summer Triangle; the Maiz God; and a dog who probably is Three-Dog, the astronomer in the Bodley Codex, and named as the Serpent Goddess.

Yet the multiple births and deaths are an indication of families and dynastic rulers. In spite of that, with so many visual references to this goddess, who often is seated on star cushions, some tinted dark gray, it is very unlikely family members were in the ancient codex. Here is where the first two days of the conference with its techniques made a lot of sense.

The fact that the 26 week per half year (a single HAAB has been altered to read 260 days, and the 52 weeks for a full double HAAB year has been altered to be 52 years. {See the third section on Dates]

Nevertheless, the 260 days is a useable number in Maya since it not only measured the gestation period for a pregnant woman; it counted for a star-horoscope, for good-bad luck of each child born under certain stars.

The date the goddess died is marked on p. 10.and on page 9; We also found that there were two birth dates for the Great Star. A mummy bundle is found on page 20. A mummy bundle for the Great Star is also found on page 10.

As for Tlaloc, he is "born" on page 18 with a strange long skinny red umbilical cord [real or new imput] with other births on pages 10, 14, 15 and 19. Yet, no death mummy is indicated.

That is also the rule given in the first part of the Popol Vuh. The text reads:

“We will give the whole story according to God and Christianity However, the narrators will be hidden.”

Alec Christenson wrote about those “hidden narrators” in his version of the Popol Vuh on Take "cause" and put it into a new story, then take "effect" and put it into a different story. Both stories should connect to each other with the same information as the original combination, but with slightly different names or places. Hence a hidden text in plain sight. In other words, the “Narrators” are the words, not any person except the reader.
The Trecena of the Serpent Calendar in the front pages of the Madrid is one of those items The count of 20-day months matches only. to a TEN-month count. The eleventh month does not make a good ending. It can neither add up to 365-days. However, it seems to find the final days of the 360-day years.

But at least it does show us show the vertical count of the 1583/84 proposed Trecena which was to be used [after the attempt to add the IMIX column] in the horizontal layout for how the old 360-day year was set into the agriculture cycle, and also for attempted as a conversion to a 365-day year.

One can replace Imix as the 1583 the papal “correction” and return it to its rightful place at the end of the 52 week sequence.  IK MANIK, EB, CABAN, then can tend to the agricultural aspect of the Trecena. Three "years" of 20-day months, with only four impossible days per week. Add a day above and below each four-day cycle. and the calendar will give two days of rest for every four days worked. A practical arrangement so the natives could attend their religious ceremonies. Such a schedule is not an unreasonable one for any religious community.

This included effective husbandry of the milpas; one year to farm one plot of land each year in rotation, and one year for the other two to lie fallow and recuperate for the next three year cycle. Obviously, it was impossible to work the calendar with only four days per week. So this version was never considered to be accurate, nor intelligent mathematics of the primitive culture of the Aztec/Maya Calendar scene, therefore, it was ignored.

Again, as a simplistic example for an agricultural sequence; was never considered essential knowledge in the minds of the Conquistadores. It was a gross error, even when it was an excellent way to understand the ancient methods of counting, not days but years. The days of each year in a sequence of three necessary years to use and re-energize three plots of land so a farmer would enjoy a good harvest every year.

The second Calendar in the Borgia Codex, had been proposed as pre- Conquest, It specifically was only accurate for the 260 day sequence of the Trecena. But was it?
In the Borgia, the Maya names were abandoned for the Aztec/Mixtec version: i.e.: HOUSE, RABBIT, REED, and FLINT. The Trecena marched across four double pages. Each set contains thirteen weeks.

Somewhere along the line, even the 13-week intervals were done away by papal decree. The 26-week HAAB became 260-days in the new mathematics. Alterations of the calendar for mesoamericans became even more convoluted within the next century or two. Obispo Noriega Servando, because of such constant changes; commented in his Despedida to his Mexico City parishioners, his own frustrated confusion.

"Mistakes" or codes? A code, how ridiculous! Or, was it ridiculous? In the days before and after the Conquest, monasteries were prisons for those “heretics” who were capable of writing. They were told how to change the texts. Yet, they were able to work around ancient, near-sighted, color-blind eyes with few problems.

The little feet found in several glyph blocks meant very little to the gaolers, even though they pointed up into the upper row of icons. Later professors could not explain such footsteps. It was casually, ignored in modern classes. Emphasis was placed on the 260-days of the eight double page 13-week Trecena count which is difficult enough to understand.

With so little knowledge of Planet Earth, It was after the 52-year calculation, [not for "52-weeks"] reared its ugly head when a  correlation of 819 years was “proven” with a click of the computer “mouse.”   With the 819 / 16 = 51.11875.  Viola, a 52-year cycle, became a reality between our new 365-day Earth cycle and that of Venus which has a regular 8-year cycle. Where did the 16 come from? It is the only number that would be close enough to divide the 819 into [almost] 52 years.

Between the spring-time rising of Venus in the East and its short 8-day vacation behind the sun, it then rises in the western skies to complement Orion's winter sojourn. It could never have jumped over Earth's orbit to attack Mars, as another author, lacking an astronomy background insisted.

That author had traced the blue star all over the world, but mis-read the tryst between Ares and Aphrodite [of the wounded wrist which bled ICHOR.][00] It was the Sun who reported their transgression to Zeus. The other gods–––thinking it hilarious––– fell off their thrones [constellations]. When their stopped laughing so hard, they recovered their seats, except they had returned [figuratively] into their neighbor's place instead.

The Greek story, went to Rome, but not before it included a word in another language. Rome, during the time of the Templars, had already destroyed the Mani in Greece. so the story did not recognize the word ICHOR, a good Turkish word that translates as "hot continuously burning cinders." As Venus, Ichor never made it back to the Star-references of Aphrodite in the Iliad.

In the Borgia Codex, no one bothered to count the top and bottom row of each page. Few bothered to add the number of those figures, to the Trecena area in the middle of the two rows. If they would have attempted the addition, they would find that the Borgia scribes had actually created a count of a 364-day with one icon containing a glyphic foot in the direction of a glyph that would number the days, to the 365 count.


In this paper, I have introduced the whole page of the picture in the Vindobonenses Codex and after seeing its next pages concluded the codex was in fact, a reconstruction of the land after the arrival of the Great Star and its debris.

That means the Vindobonensis should have been the focus of the meeting on July 2nd since it was the third codex to give information about the main sky event.

Even so, the Selden Codex, having been the main focus, was relatively easy to identify as the passage of the Great Star of Sahagún, from its pre-birth stage as a star asking permission of the gods to travel towards earth to its final death mummy. Most the the events shown in the whole of 20 pages, has star temples or star people involved in the interactions within the codex.

One entity, had its own bundle, as if it had been a different part of the Selden {destroyed or lost] which would have made it the first part of the story as a possible creator goddess, with the star event being the second of the series. As the main creator goddess of the Selden, it would have been proper for her to have her own bundle.

The last element presented in this paper is the convoluted mix of the Dates and Numbers. Even though I did not give much information about it; it is one of the most important aspects that must be investigated in these and other manuscripts before any of the codices can be evaluated.

I propose that the erroneous 819 segment of 52 years, together with the “dated associations” with the Venus Planet should be considered as valid deletions to be made since most of it was an over-abundance of calculus statements done with computer manipulations.

It was not with Earth’s orbital measurements or actual historic evidence that there was once a 360-day year [One spin per degree per day] before the event of the Great Star. The evidence, like the appearance of the Great Star, is world-wide. Our whole Sky-Earth Knowledge is very small by comparison

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2 Nuttall Codex [Dover Edition] had 5 separate glyphs of Square­ Nose Beastie inside a cog filled with [inferred: “hot”] ash. Square-nose is, at first, eating up the star ball court surrounded by red/white stars to a final ball court glyph truncated with only small white circles [but still] of the same stars.
(See in the McNeil Nebula. Another of a star with multiple puffs of smoke popping out of the sphere.)

3 Beam, (1974) Scientific American

4 Miller, Mary and Taube, Karl (19 , ) A Dictionary of Mesoamerican Maya Gods.

5 Read. Kaye Almere (19 , )

6 Tedlock, Dennis, (1976, ) Popol Vuh.

7 Christenson, Alec, (2002, ) Popol Vuh.

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9 Roys, (19 , ) The Chronicles of the Chumayel.

10 Looper, Matthew (20 , ) The Lightning Warrior,

11 Lewis, Oscar (1951) Life in a Mexican Village: Tepoztlan Restudied. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

12 Palou, Francisco, (1966) Relacion Historica de La Vida y Apostólicas Tareas del V. P. Fray Junipero Serra, Readex Microprint Corporation

13 Camp, L. Sprague, (1975) The Ancient Engineers. New York: Ballentine Books. Biringuey Medieval Pyrotechnics.

14 Medieval French Dictionary.

15 Noriega y Guerra, Servando Teresa de Mier (1821) Carta de Despedida a los Mexicanos, Puebla: Imprints de D. Pedro Garmendia